On the 87th episode, we talk all-things-Trump with Sam Nunberg, a longtime political advisor to Trump who left in the early days of the campaign but remains close to many high ranking Trump world figures.

In this conversation, we discuss the optics of the North Korea summit, the prospects for the midterms, and where he thinks the Russia inquiry stands.

We discuss his questioning before the grand jury, and get his take on Roger Stone, Michael Cohen, Rudy Giuliani, Jared Kushner and Steve Bannon.

Finally, we delve into the question of whether Trump should agree to be interviewed by Mueller and whether pardons are likely.